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Sgt Bilko » 07 Aug 2017 3:16 pm » wrote: Miss liberal will ignore this as well. It contains information she will not want to read!!! So miss liberal are you liberal or progressive???

Liberalism vs Progressivism

Liberalism Defined

http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/americas-2nd ... jLZe82l.99

There are those on both the left and right who call for American unity. But these calls are either naive or disingenuous. Unity was possible between the right and liberals, but not between the right and the left.

Liberalism – which was anti-left, pro-American and deeply committed to the Judeo-Christian foundations of America; and which regarded the melting pot as the American ideal, fought for free speech for its opponents, regarded Western civilization as the greatest moral and artistic human achievement and viewed the celebration of racial identity as racism – is now affirmed almost exclusively on the right and among a handful of people who don’t call themselves conservative.

Progressivism defined it rejects the basic liberalism definition about country

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism

Progressivism is a philosophy based on the Idea of Progress, which asserts that advancements in science, technology, economic development, and social organization are vital to the improvement of the human condition. Progressivism became highly significant during the Age of Enlightenment in Europe, out of the belief that Europe was demonstrating that societies could progress in civility from barbaric conditions to civilization through strengthening the basis of empirical knowledge as the foundation of society. Figures of the Enlightenment believed that progress had universal application to all societies and that these ideas would spread across the world from Europe. Sociologist Robert Nisbet defines five "crucial premises" of the Idea of Progress as being:
1. value of the past;
2. nobility of Western civilization;
3. worth of economic/technological growth;
4. scientific/scholarly knowledge obtained through reason over faith;
5. the intrinsic importance and worth of life on Earth.

Beyond this, the meanings of progressivism have varied over time and from different perspectives.

The "reason over faith" implies non Christian concepts. Leaving out God is a mistake. That means that it is up to each to create their own morals and ethics. Atheist rulers demonstrate the fallacy of that approach!

Also notice that it rejects the basic concepts of country foundations and melting pot idea where everyone coming here adopts the American ideal.